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The Last Windseeker · Mar 13, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

I was beginning to think Anet didn't want to talk about Heroes Ascent. I was able to get a most likely situation from Gaile. Hopefully it's true.

Bread Fan · Mar 13, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

ROFL final decisions? Do you enjoy Anet blowing smoke up your ass? Final decision was supposed to be almost two weeks ago. Just another PvE rep stalling. And the poll is close? Yeah if you take into consideration of GWO which is a PvE site and have you read their arguements for wanting 6v6 over 8v8, just laughable.

P.S - It is quite pathetic that one has to hang out in Lion's Arch or some other PvE ONLY area to get some feedback as to where Anet stands on this. Instead of easily posting on the forums. To funny....1-2 weeks but that's taking a guess. It only takes a few minutes to revert HA to 8v8 and remove kill count....

Nurse With Wound · Mar 13, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Bread Fan

And the poll is close? Yeah if you take into consideration of TGH which is a PvE site and have you read their arguements for wanting 6v6 over 8v8, just laughable.

You obviously had GWO in mind, TGH isnt pve forum at all, but on the other hand, they hardly got any high-ranked HA regulars, its mostly a forum of GVG community.

Lord Natural · Mar 13, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

I don't even want 8v8 back if they're leaving altar maps the way they are. Those maps are already a mess with 18 people. Classic 8v8 ftw.

I Teh Mighty Warrior I · Mar 13, 2007, 01:10 AM // 01:10

I'm not even going to post a reply to this, don't feel like getting banned

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The Last Windseeker · Mar 13, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by I Teh Mighty Warrior I

I'm not even going to post a reply to this, don't feel like getting banned

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Just wondering, why do you feel like you will get banned? As long as your just voicing your opinion you should not get banned.

I Teh Mighty Warrior I · Mar 13, 2007, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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Originally Posted by The Last Windseeker

Just wondering, why do you feel like you will get banned? As long as your just voicing your opinion you should not get banned.

My opinion is that this is horseshit.

First of all, in order for us to get any information we have to sit in id1 lion RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing arch just to have gaile gray give us three sentences on the status of HA? Not only this, but Gaile gives no information of them changing these horrible map objectives, we got a spike and gank fest at killcount maps, an ab scrubfest, and a whoever-caps-last-wins match to look forward to in HoH (The altar capping one is actually a decent mechanic, good job Anet you're 1 for 4.) Next one to two weeks, who is she kidding I don't believe this for a second. It's going to turn out just like the last time Anet gave a set date, it's going to be delayed indefinately because no one from Anet wants to give us a freaking date (Automated GvG tournaments in the beginning of Feburary? Or more recently, decision on HA March 1st?). It's really starting to look hopeless, I will NOT be looking forward to buying the next chapter of GW, I'll still buy it, not because you're doing a good job Anet (You're actually doing a horrible job, yes I said it now do something about it.) But because GvG is where its at, if these automated tournaments are as good as they are telling us, and we can all trust Anet's judgement on what's fun and good for the game right?

You know you've done something wrong when you lose the trust of the customers who have played this game since the beginning.

Wilhelm · Mar 13, 2007, 01:55 AM // 01:55

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Originally Posted by Bread Fan

P.S - It is quite pathetic that one has to hang out in Lion's Arch or some other PvE ONLY area to get some feedback as to where Anet stands on this. Instead of easily posting on the forums. To funny....1-2 weeks but that's taking a guess. It only takes a few minutes to revert HA to 8v8 and remove kill count....

Ohhhhh noooo they made a PvP announcement in a PvE area, quit your damn crying.

Incase you didn't notice...everyone of Gaile's visits are posted by a user in this forum....and the last time I checked, this isn't a PvE ONLY area.

It'll obviously take time to implement changes, especially if they're large ones, not to mention the time it takes to bring in our feedback etc....

I Teh Mighty Warrior I · Mar 13, 2007, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by Wilhelm

It'll obviously take time to implement changes, especially if they're large ones, not to mention the time it takes to bring in our feedback etc....

8 months to implement 8v8? Sounds long enough to me. How hard could it be to revert back to 8v8 + the old mechanics?

Nurse With Wound · Mar 13, 2007, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by I Teh Mighty Warrior I

8 months to implement 8v8? Sounds long enough to me. How hard could it be to revert back to 8v8 + the old mechanics?

As I said in the other thread, that did took a long time, but the changes are really coming . I hope they get the job done well this time, sadly many good players we lost wont be back.

Wilhelm · Mar 13, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

@ I Teh Mighty Warrior I - I was referring to the fact that it would be hard for them make fast, intelligent changes to HA, because there is far more going on at Anet, than suggested changes to Heroe's Ascent. They had an entire new chapter coming out, which was far more important to them.

I won't be suprised to see 8vs8 back, its definatly needed.

Death_From_Above · Mar 13, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

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Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Oddly, I haven't been in HA in ages, and was never more than a casual player at best....so, I must of meant alot to you to draw that conclusion.

@ I Teh Mighty Warrior I - I was referring to the fact that it would be hard for them make fast, intelligent changes to HA, because there is far more going on at Anet, than suggested changes to Heroe's Ascent. They had an entire new chapter coming out, which was far more important to them.

I won't be suprised to see 8vs8 back, its definatly needed.

So if you casualy pvp how are you meant to know the HA communitys frustration. Anet have been chatting air now for to long. Understandable if they had to make new maps ect but they got a template of old HA. THERE just making excuses as usual. Its not hard to make a fast intelligent change to HA in these case because the answers staring them in the face. 8 months of waiting and all weve been told is this oh and that. Oh ye 8v8 might be comming back and all this rubbish. Its nonsence, i think we have all been pacient enough hence why i dont feel like being pacient any more because i can see its clearly not working and anet think they can take us for a ride

Undressed · Mar 13, 2007, 09:25 AM // 09:25

Frustration? How can you get frustration in a game? What did you do in these 8 months besides crying, flaming, whining? You might have switched to another game, taken time off etc...

Gaile Gray is announcing something important, maybe even something pleasing for the old scrubs, yet you still moan.

Get a stable life imo.

masta_yoda · Mar 13, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

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Originally Posted by Undressed

Frustration? How can you get frustration in a game? What did you do in these 8 months besides crying, flaming, whining? You might have switched to another game, taken time off etc...

Gaile Gray is announcing something important, maybe even something pleasing for the old scrubs, yet you still moan.

Get a stable life imo.

maybe you would understand more if you played ha more..... and if something you liked is taken away from you, id bet you would be pretty frustrated as well.

coleslawdressin · Mar 13, 2007, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by I Teh Mighty Warrior I

8 months to implement 8v8? Sounds long enough to me. How hard could it be to revert back to 8v8 + the old mechanics?

From hearing Izzy's underling talk about how easy it would be to toss in a new build for an emergency skill fix.....I am guessing it would take all of a day at most to revert to the 8v8 code already tested.

It probably isn't taking so long to come to a decision as it is to implement whatever solution PLUS all of the other stuff that will end up in the mega patch. We only get serious updates as part of a major patch, so I am betting tombs won't change until they also add the GVG ATs. That means regular swiss play is ending in a couple weeks so we get an announcement then and then we have to wait until the finals ends so roughly 1to1.5x-9000 to 3245462624months give or take the binomial of 6x6 divided by the multiplicative factor of 8x8. The polling error sampling rate is estimated at 52x the number of dunkoros remaining hairs, plus or minus the number of issues of the scribe.

Of course, I am totally biased towards 8v8 and refuse to play 6v6 but I really don't think that the people who voted for 6v6 play nearly as much as the 8v8 people (or would still play or did play)?

It is annoying that they ever changed to 6v6 in the first place or that we have to wait so long, but I just hope that they make the right decision. If they go 6v6 I will probably shit a brick then try to organize some griefing raids, then stab my ANET voodoo doll, then go play some GVG and drink myself berzerk for a week or two then give up.

One of my secret desires is for tombs to get fixed but they make a 6v6 sealed gameplay mode. I think that would be real awesome for the people who love 6v6 too because they wouldn't have to worry about gimmicks or stuff like that. I know they have a real preference for those random skills and a strong aversion to anyone playing to win. 8v8 people will be happier too because we are at least used to the brokenness and can deal. GVGers are used to spiking so it shouldn't be a huge deal. Then there are those weird GVGErs who think tombs is their own personal TA for prizes in the one hour timeframe when not enough to gvg are on and also they are complete antisocials who cant get a friend or pug. These are the real sickos.

Franco Power · Mar 13, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

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Originally Posted by Bread Fan

ROFL final decisions? Do you enjoy Anet blowing smoke up your ass? Final decision was supposed to be almost two weeks ago. Just another PvE rep stalling. And the poll is close? Yeah if you take into consideration of GWO which is a PvE site and have you read their arguements for wanting 6v6 over 8v8, just laughable.

P.S - It is quite pathetic that one has to hang out in Lion's Arch or some other PvE ONLY area to get some feedback as to where Anet stands on this. Instead of easily posting on the forums. To funny....1-2 weeks but that's taking a guess. It only takes a few minutes to revert HA to 8v8 and remove kill count....

I don't think Gaile or Alex unlocked HA yet~

Death_From_Above · Mar 13, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by Undressed

Frustration? How can you get frustration in a game? What did you do in these 8 months besides crying, flaming, whining? You might have switched to another game, taken time off etc...

Gaile Gray is announcing something important, maybe even something pleasing for the old scrubs, yet you still moan.

Get a stable life imo.

One word. LAME. Yes you can get frustrated if you buy a game, your enjoying it for so long, then a stupid update comes along which no one wants and takes away this fun you have been having. Now just to correct you on something. I have taken a break from gw, a very long 1 in fact cos no tombs = no friends on = no ha which sucks anyway and infact sometimes i have been playing call of duty to replace guildwars.

But id prefer to be playing 8v8 old HA. Secondly, galie grays been announcing somethin important. how many times have we heard that, i dont think you can really complain because im sure if i went an messed up pve or gvg or what ever you do and left it in a state for 8 hours because i wanted to be spoilt. I dont think you would be happy and would feel the way i am to. The fact their claiming to do somethin is not good enough when they should have ages ago. Take polotics for example.

If the same president of America at the time of the vietnam war removed all the troops like ages after the people where complaing for him to. Would they appauld him although he done it. Nope they would flame him all the more and ask for his resignation.

I have not been flaming or whining about the status on HA. I ONLY started 2 get annoyed when after comming to give good feedback on the forms, which i spent ages writing for the people of anet only to have it disregarded and for anet to then go on and say stupid things, like galie thinking people like kill count, to wasting more time to fix a simple problem, to deliberatly winding up the ha community with the removal on kc only from ha so doin 8v8 weekend after how long only to mess that up by not giving us what we want. Im not going to thank be pacient nore happy just because anet have managed 2 screw their heads on an make a decsion and then remove their heads again. So think before you speak and put yourselfs in our possition first before you start throwing pointless comments around.

Nadia Roark · Mar 13, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by I Teh Mighty Warrior I

8 months to implement 8v8? Sounds long enough to me. How hard could it be to revert back to 8v8 + the old mechanics?

Methinks you don't realize that ArenaNet is probably (gasp!) developing other games and that they have non GW related tasks to complete in the meantime. This isn't Blizzard, and we're not playing WoW. ANet and NCsoft actually have other games.

It seems to me that a lot of us are under the impression that these changes are of a life-and-death magnitude and that the things you/we want need to happen now and only now and that everything else needs to be put on hold until this HA crisis is fixed.

Grow the f*ck up.

Don't get me wrong (since this forum has a history of missing my point) I'm not saying that HA doesn't need a radical overhaul: in fact I agree with the majority of comments I've seen regarding 6v6 vs. 8v8 and the utter retardation that is kill counts and capture points. Nevertheless, I feel compelled to point a few things out:

It's a goddamn game.
8 Months isn't a terribly long time by any conventional measure.
To anyone who still wants to complain that 8 months is a long time relative to the task at hand (I admit it probably wouldn't take long to enact these changes), please refer to statement #1.

Thom Bangalter · Mar 13, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by The Last Windseeker

I was beginning to think Anet didn't want to talk about Heroes Ascent. I was able to get a most likely situation from Gaile. Hopefully it's true.

Morello actually confirmed it weeks ago in GWP when someone was bitching at him about 6v6. The polls aren't that close, though.

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Originally Posted by Franco Power

I don't think Gaile or Alex unlocked HA yet~

They also don't know how to spell pvp.

Also, coke: you're so saucy. SO SAUCY.

Ragnorak · Mar 13, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Think I'd prefer 6v6 to 8v8 with the current HA system. Kill counts are just gank fests, although the new win conditions in HoH rock.

King of the Hill in Broken and Courtyard IMO... and the rifts, why cant we have the rifts back, whine.